From:  Gyan Ranjan Patra <gyanp@p...>
Date:  Tue Apr 17, 2001  1:30 pm
Subject:  Some Halwa! Some News!...and what about a discussion???!!!

Hi all,

After all those 'spicy mails' ....Gogia's sweets are a welcome change. Hope

Gogia continues to limit his "Halwa ka dookan" to Delhi and other branches

and keeps away from the internet.....I mean does not try to make

"hawla-ka-dookan.com" 'coz the way the software market is behaving its bound

to bomb! Its long since we had a discussion in our group and dont you think

it will be a great idea if we discuss about the talk of this industry "The

future of Software(or future of software enggs ....) after this slowdown".

Or at least some info of its impact in your company and

location(Mumbai...California etc). Can I ask Debasis, Dibyendu, Tarini,

Sambit ,Kaushik, Shyam, Sarita, Dilip, Sasmita, Monica, Usha, Manas, Bhakta,

Tapan, Chinmay, Krishna_Chim.......to initiate this discussion ???!!!  

By the way the news is Tarini has left for Spain for 2 weeks and Tushar(Comp

Sci) got thru Infosys. Rama Panda is back from Japan but will soon go back

to meet his Japanese girlfriend! You should see his new Japanese haircut!

Samaresh is also back from US and begs everybody against going to US thru

bodyshoppers.  

Wishes,

Gyan 

From:  Gyan Ranjan Patra <gyanp@p...>
Date:  Wed Apr 18, 2001  12:06 pm
Subject:  Some reactions to your mails...

Hi all,

I am sure we'll flooded by mails from others telling their views on the

condition in their company and city after this slow down...Excuse me for

pointing a few names to initiate the discussion...I just picked some news

considering the frequency they send mails.....

I seem to agree with agree with Shakti when he says this industry has grown

unreasonably(100% or more) for past few years. It was bound to stop....and

stabilise and thats what happening.

But when u, Vinay and Krishna_Chim say that software engg. should work in

core technologies(Unix,C,C++) I do not agree....see even now there is is

need for making houses and roads and that does not mean there will be a huge

demand for Civil Engineers! Its not that the demand for core technologies

has gone up....actually its demand has remained constant...while the demand

for internet technologies has gone down... Its good that such a thing has

happened...things need to stabilise! We used to have DD1 and DD2 and then we

got hundreds of channels coming up....Sony, Zee, Home TV, Jain TV,

Star....but later later lot of them closed down.....but its not that we went

back to DD1 and DD2.....now we have some selected good channels Sony, Star,

Zee...they stabilised....so will be this software industry....

As far as KC's query is concerned....I must say that the list is not

true....but there have been lay-offs in Companies like Telesoft, Savantech,

Aditi, Axial, Honeywell, Trigyn...

Its sad that people are being without any solid reason.....And there is no

plans of lay-off in Infosys(as Usha said), Wipro or TCs...in fact TCS is in

a recruitment spree... I think others should also send some information if

they have.

And Usha mind telling which carrier u meant while writing "Wishing you a

great carrier ahead this year .."

Dont panic...stay wherever you are....think twice(or thrice!) before

changing your company.... and as Shakti says...don't go to US thru body

shoppers...

Take care...and keep shooting mails...

Warm regards,

Gyan

> ----------

> From:    shaktiswain@e...[SMTP:shaktiswain@e...]

> Sent:     Wednesday, April 18, 2001 3:48 PM

> To:        oec98@yahoogroups.com

> Subject:                Re: [[oec98] Some Halwa! Some News!...and what about a

> discussion???!!!]

> 

> hi all,

> 

>           as u know the situation is pretty bad in the silicon valley

> area(Cali).The worst sufferers being the start-ups dot com cos.This came

> as

> no surprise  as it was bound to happen.THere is no business which can

> continue 2 grow at a rate of 100% every yr for 4-5 yrs.

>      Basically now a days no body is willing to fund start-ups , n esp. if

> thats a Dot com ones.Seems like the Dot has become a full stop(not

> exactly,m

> just kiddin).Thats wat has resulted in the current slow down.But people

> who

> r working in core technology areas like in C,C++,assembly,Unix,drivers

> stuff,r still very much in demand.N also the electronics guys who r into

> h/w

> designing stuff.So as such these guys need not worry abt H1.But yes,boddy

> shoppers r really the blood sucking bastards.So its better to go n join a

> company directly,n above all if thats a public company.

> 

> 

> regds

> Shakti

>      

>     

> 

> 

> On 17 Apr 2001 23:35:58 MDT, ASHISH GOGIA wrote:

> 

> >  hi sarita do not worry main tere se khatti marne ke liyee usa bhi aa

> jaoonga

> >  life ek dam cool hai no tension till now..too bhi masti kar aur koi

> gadha

> mele

> >  to shaadi bhi kar le..

> >    anyway gyaan bhai if u will permit shall i start the

> discussion..bhaiya

> the

> >  future of software is halwa that is why i am already in to halwa making

> >    Mental spain kisslitee honeymoon ke liyee jaa raha hai..party have a

> nice

> >  time and have some bull fighting also(not with...sorry censored)..

> >    rest fine samara party mail de i am fine take care (all software

> proff)

> >      love u all gogia motta

> >  

> >  Gyan Ranjan Patra <gyanp@p...> wrote:

> >  

> >  > --------------------------------------------- 

> >  >      Attachment:? 

> >  >      MIME Type:?multipart/alternative 

> >  > --------------------------------------------- 

> >  Hi all,

> >  

> >  After all those 'spicy mails' ....Gogia's sweets are a welcome change.

> Hope

> >  Gogia continues to limit his "Halwa ka dookan" to Delhi and other

> branches

> >  and keeps away from the internet.....I mean does not try to make

> >  "hawla-ka-dookan.com" 'coz the way the software market is behaving its

> bound

> >  to bomb! Its long since we had a discussion in our group and dont you

> think

> >  it will be a great idea if we discuss about the talk of this industry

> "The

> >  future of Software(or future of software enggs ....) after this

> slowdown".

> >  Or at least some info of its impact in your company and

> >  location(Mumbai...California etc). Can I ask Debasis, Dibyendu, Tarini,

> >  Sambit ,Kaushik, Shyam, Sarita, Dilip, Sasmita, Monica, Usha, Manas,

> Bhakta,

> >  Tapan, Chinmay, Krishna_Chim.......to initiate this discussion ???!!!  

> >  

> >  By the way the news is Tarini has left for Spain for 2 weeks and

> Tushar(Comp

> >  Sci) got thru Infosys. Rama Panda is back from Japan but will soon go

> back

> >  to meet his Japanese girlfriend! You should see his new Japanese

> haircut!

> >  Samaresh is also back from US and begs everybody against going to US

> thru

> >  bodyshoppers.  

> >  

> >  Wishes,

> >  

> >  Gyan 

> >